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Doing business in China: how important is it for foreigners to speak Chinese?
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Post time: 15-Dec-2008  14:19


The other day I sat in on a meeting between a European buyer (German, in fact) and a Chinese supplier. My role in the meeting was minimal, so I won't go into that. Rather, I'd like to touch on another subject that I couldn't help but wondering about while I sat and listened at this meeting: how important is it for foreign companies to have foreign staff that speak Chinese?

In this meeting, there were none. The German buyers were new to China and had no understanding for Chinese language, and little understanding for Chinese culture. I was positively surprised that unless the supplier spoke with Shanghai dialect, I could understand pretty much everything they said in Chinese. I could also understand a lot of what the Germans said to each other, as German language is quite similar to Swedish (well, not quite similar, but it is still quite understandable, many words are alike, and so on). To make the negotiation possible there were two young Chinese women who knew the product, the suppliers and the buyers, acting translators.

So there was a total of 6 people and I cannot say that the negotiation went smoothly. Rather, it was kind of painful to listen to at times. Mainly, because they couldn't speak to each other in their native language, and none of them had perfect English, so a lot of information was lost on the way. Also, a lot of times this sort of discussion happened:

Buyer: I think it is too expensive, can we lower the price with 20 cents? Because this and this has been changed so the price should drop a bit...

Translator: I will ask the supplier. (Translates to the supplier and briefly goes over all the changes that has been made, some being clear and some not so clear)

Supplier: It is not possible. The price is already low, ra ra ra.... (the translator and the supplier argues for a good 10 minutes).

Finally, the supplier agrees on lowering the price with 10 cents. The translator turns to the buyer:

Translator: OK, so you can get 10 cents cheaper, is that OK.

Buyer: 10 cents? But I asked for 20? Why only 10?

Translator: (looking tired) She said so. 20 cents is impossible. But it is OK. I will ask again.

The buyers start discussing in German.

Five minutes later, they suggest another change in the product in order to lower the price further. The change is kind of complicated and I can see on the translator that she doesn't fully understand. Still, she says 'OK' and starts to explain to the supplier, I can already tell that the suggested change isn't coming through in her speech, and that the supplier isn't going to bulge. Another 10 minutes discussion takes place. In the end, the Germans get a price drop of 12 cents and no one follows up on the changes that were suggested. Nobody seem really happy and the translator and supplier continues to argue in local dialect for some time.

This whole discussion, over just one product took them more than 30 minutes and that was actually a quite fast example. Other discussions would take up to one hour, mainly because explanations were lost in translation, the supplier didn't understand what the buyer wanted, the buyer didn't understand the suppliers way to think, and so on... I just sat there and wondered to myself if I would have been able to get a better price while negotiating (I wasn't in a position to speak however, so I shut up) since I could have presented my points straight to the supplier. Even though I didn't know all the technical aspects of the product, I still think I could have made my point a bit clearer.

This meeting made me wonder how many meetings are like that here in China. Probably loads. Even though the number of foreigners that can speak Chinese is rising, I still don't think it is that common that meetings/negotiations can take place completely in Chinese at foreign enterprises. It takes a long time to master Chinese, and besides, even though a foreigner could speak Chinese, s/he might not be up for negotiating with a local that prefers negotiating with another local... Also, it is obviously not enough to know Chinese, u have to understand the Chinese culture too (although if you have studied Chinese in China for some years you probably will have a quite good idea of the 'Chinese way')

Obviously, since many Chinese people nowadays speak English, it is more common that the meeting is held in English. But I believe many details can be misunderstood when a meeting is held in a non-native language, especially if the other part is German/ Swedish/ Italian/ from whatever country where English isn't the population's first language. Also, I sometimes feel that Chinese people, even though they don't understand your point, will say 'OK' just because they don't want to seem stupid/lose face by asking you one more time. I think the culture gap between a European country like Germany and China makes the negotiation a bit harder than usual, for both parts. I wonder how much smoother it could have gone if the German company actually had someone German who could negotiate/explain her points in Chinese.

What do you guys think? How important do you think it is for a foreigner to speak Chinese when doing business in China? How many misunderstandings can be avoided? Or, is English enough?

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Post by: zen  Time: 18-Feb-2009  15:49
If you know local language,better.If no,English or interpreter is enough.
Post by: Rossco  Time: 19-Feb-2009  12:58
English is normally enough when dealing with larger organisations. I think it's unusual to have to talk through an interpreter as most companies have some English speaking staff in the sales dept. Often these are young English major graduates. Perhaps the real problem is for the Europeans to speak English fluently.
It is useful to know some Chinese but not let on so you can understand what they are saying about you thinking you don't understand!
Post by: richardcan ...  Time: 17-Mar-2009  17:09
keep it simple

dont say the price should be 20 Yuan
just say 20 Yuan
Post by: Wang Shuan ...  Time: 27-Jul-2009  12:59
it is common this kind of thing takes place in international business.

I work in a japanese company in China, but I speak english with my japanese colleagues as I can't speak japanese and most of my japanese colleagues can't speak chinese.

Some time, we can't communicate each other very deeply in English, After all, we are not english native speaker, there is often some misunderstanding between us.

As you said, It takes a long time to master Chinese, actually, it is quite hard to master any of foreign lanuages, speaking, listening, writing, and reading at will. You have to spend much time learning something behind the foreign language you are learning, e.g culture, history, custom and so on.

The best way to aviod misunderstanding and gap between two parts is to find an excellent translator who can master only not English, Chinese, but also German. maybe that can help people get through.

Post by: ScubaSteve  Time: 27-Jul-2009  15:18
Although many Chinese speak English and other foreign languages quite fluently, it is a core responsibility of all foreigners coming to live / do business in China to learn at least basic Mandarin. Honestly, you can probably get away with not learning Chinese in major cities like Shanghai and Beijing, but foreign ignorance toward the Chinese language will have severe repercussions in the future.

Many Chinese are weary of foreigners who don't learn the language and culture, creating a widespread xenophobia towards all Westerners. This fear dates back to the imperialist 20s and the Chinese have the right to walk cautiously.

It is true that the Chinese language is designed to keep people out and mastering the written language and reading will take many years of practice, but learning conversational Mandarin is not hard if you apply yourself.

For the sake of continued positive relations between the Chinese people and foreigners coming to live here, all foreigners should make a serious effort to learn the language, don't just think that because you can get away without it you don't have to learn. Besides, there are 100,000s of Chinese people who would love to perform language exchanges with foreigners.

Also, if foreign ignorance toward the language continues, there will eventually be a serious advantage on the Chinese side of all business and cultural affairs. Just think about it, the Chinese make a serious effort to learn languages from all around the world, why shouldn't you learn theirs, especially if you want to live here.
Post by: Harry  Time: 10-Oct-2009  8:57
To go to China you do not have to speak Chinese because English simply. However, for best chance of success in your business, it is better to know the local languages. In my travels in China I worked with a company Barakkuda (www.barakkuda.com) which helps for this kind of problem. I advise you.
And good travel to China.